Ep. 30 | Music and Money (w/ Moon Taxi)
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Speaker 2:Hey, everyone. Welcome back to Teaching Tax. Well, the podcast is always episode 30 today. We're gonna talk music and money. Joined by two of the five guys from the five piece band hailing from Nashville, Tennessee.
Speaker 2:If you didn't read the show notes, you'll find out who they are shortly. However, little brief intro on these guys. I'll hear a little bit more as well. These guys actually have graced some large scale festival event stages such as Lollapalooza, Coachella, Bonnaroo, many others. Also, definitely no strangers to national TV appearances, such as those on Late Show with David Letterman, Late Night with Seth Meyers, Conan, Stephen Colbert, as well as Jimmy Kimmel Live.
Speaker 2:And one last number I'd like to throw at you, just a little number, I guess, really, maybe, is a 55,000,000 plus downloads on Spotify with one of their songs alone, Too Hot. So before you meet these guys, let's take a quick moment to thank our sponsor.
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Speaker 2:Welcome everybody back to the podcast. We actually have a really good guest on with us today that probably you don't expect, which, obviously, if you've listened to the podcast before, you know that me, John Tchaikovsky, my partner in crime, Chris Pacuro, we're always up to something. And then now we can bring in stuff that's nontax related, and it's a little treat for you. So before we get into that exactly, let's introduce these guys. We'll see who they are and then maybe say a little bit about what they do.
Speaker 2:What do you think, Chris? Should we tell them what they do?
Speaker 4:I think we should, and I'm really excited to have these guests. And I promised John before this podcast, I would keep my pickleball talk down to five minutes or less. We'll see what had happened. Alright. It's not gonna happen.
Speaker 4:We already know that, but, you know, I'll give
Speaker 2:you a kudos for trying. So Tommy Putnam, Trevor Czernyra. Name sound familiar to anybody? Maybe? Maybe not?
Speaker 2:If not, I'm sure you can Google it and find out for yourself. So we're talking to two members of Moon Taxi. So not taxi drivers on the moon. Literally, you guys do something completely different. Gentlemen, how are you today?
Speaker 5:I'm doing great. Awesome. Awesome. Hey, John. Hey, Chris.
Speaker 5:I wish we were in Florida, but we're in rainy Nashville right now.
Speaker 2:Hey. Like I tell everybody though, I'm from Michigan, so careful what you say about the weather. Okay? I think I left. It was in the teens.
Speaker 2:I'll get back. It's probably still in the teens. Let's be honest. I just get accustomed icicles. So without us giving the intro, I mean, you guys have more talent in the space than we do.
Speaker 2:So, clearly, I can't sing a number and make it sound good. What do you guys do, man? Do you guys wash dishes? Do you, you know, polish cars? What what do you guys do?
Speaker 5:We are not officially astronauts. We are officially two fifths of the progressive pop rock band Moon Taxi out of Nashville, Tennessee, And we're excited to be on. This is actually our first tax related podcast. So, you know, you're gonna have to forgive any sort of, you know, beginners, you know, sort of faux pas on on our part. But we'll just try to keep it, simple and kind of explain what we do, and then we can get into, you know, the tax stuff and maybe even some pickleball stuff later on.
Speaker 5:Oh, yeah. Pickleball.
Speaker 2:We've never had anybody else besides Chris bring up that topic. So, of course, I'll yeah. What? Pickle pickleball?
Speaker 6:I I you know, I've learned two new terms for pickleball recently. The second one's escaping me, but geriatric tennis is the one that comes to mind right
Speaker 5:now. That's alright. Hey. Ouch.
Speaker 4:You know what? Ouch. That hurts.
Speaker 6:And you know what? Honestly, it's super fun to play. Yeah.
Speaker 4:Give us a little bit of background on how
Speaker 5:you guys met. Yeah. Absolutely. I met Tommy, when I was 15 years old in gym class, and he was wearing a cool t shirt of a band that I liked. And I said, hey, man.
Speaker 5:I like that shirt. And, like, literally eighteen years later, we've been playing music ever since. So it started like that in high school. We moved to we had a high school band, then we moved to Nashville, in the early two thousands to attend Belmont, and pursue music in what was back then. Music City was like a different landscape.
Speaker 5:It was so crazy back then, just in the sense that there was no not not much going on other than country music. There wasn't much of a rock scene. But even when we first moved to town, we were studying, so we weren't kind of actively out there playing, touring. We were just writing songs in our dorm and, what they call shedding, which is just practicing a lot and, you know, getting the music in inside your fingers and starting to write music together. We met the rest of the guys in the band over the next five years.
Speaker 5:We had, like, a little bit of a line lineup switch, with our drummer. But the full formation of the band was around 02/2007, which is when we started putting albums out, live albums, studio albums. And six albums later, we're we're about to put out our sixth, album. And like I said, eighteen years later, we're still playing music together. And, I mean, there's a lot that's happened in that interim.
Speaker 5:We got to play, you know, on national television. We did Letterman. We did Conan. We got to play at major music festivals. And, you know, at this point, it's like it's cool.
Speaker 5:It's it's a lot of people think, like, it's the, like, some sort of magic that we do, but for us, it's just it it's a job. We like to go out and play music for people, and, it's a lot of fun. And, like, the the magic for me is, like, the numbers, like, what you guys do. That that doesn't make sense to me. That, like, is a little bit of a like, you you're gonna really have to explain that to me.
Speaker 5:But, music for us is just something that always came naturally, and we're just so lucky that we have the same group of guys that's been playing together for, you know, a really long time. So that's that's a brief summation of the band. Well, like, that was
Speaker 4:any that was retention of of team members is a huge factor in success. And we talk about on our podcast a lot with people from all different industries just how the people don't care how much you know until they know how much you care. And the fact that you love what you're doing really supersedes how talented and how good you are because but the talent and the the the popularity and the success comes from the fact that you guys have been together. You know, there's so much synergy, and and you guys are love what you do. So and and, Tommy, are you aren't you guys for are you guys from Birmingham, Alabama?
Speaker 4:You two work for one of
Speaker 6:the trip? Trevor moved down from Syracuse to Birmingham, Vestavia Hills, Alabama. And, and I was in another band, you know, but, like, I I knew when I picked up a bass guitar when I was 12 years old what I wanted to do for the rest of my life. And speaking on what you just said about, you know, loving what you do, like, you know, I I just thought about this the other day. We had a great show in Colombia.
Speaker 6:Was that Saturday, Trevor? I guess it was Saturday.
Speaker 5:Yeah. And Yes. South Carolina. Yeah.
Speaker 6:I always get mixed up in prior Saturday. And, you know, we just played great, and the set was good. The crowd was really into it. I was just thinking, you know, man, we've we've really got it made here. It's it's a really fun living.
Speaker 2:Well, that is cool. That's one
Speaker 4:of the things I was wondering about. Tommy, you answered the question is when you're 12 years old, you knew that you wanted to be a professional musician. Mhmm. Trevor, obviously, went to Belmont, to study music. But was there a moment for you when you said, oh my gosh.
Speaker 4:This like, I can I can do this as a very successful and enjoyable and enriching career? This is this is doable. There is, like like, just a
Speaker 5:a bunch of little moments throughout our career. Like, you know, when we Yes. Started to write songs that that didn't suck. And when we you know? Like, when we started to to write songs and people were actually like, yeah.
Speaker 5:This is catchy. As opposed to like, we didn't we didn't know what we were doing at first. Go ahead, Tommy. We were saying something.
Speaker 6:Yeah. Well, yeah. And, like, when they sing it back to you, you know, when they're singing along with you. That's Right. That's a We got we got a little something brewing here.
Speaker 5:That's a that's an moment. Like, when you start getting, the business side figured out, that's an moment. Like, if a manager is willing to take time to represent you, you're like, okay. I must be doing something that that makes sense and that merits that representation. So we got a you know, we were always known as a live band, because we just played live all the time.
Speaker 5:So we got a manager first, and then we got a booking agent after that. But before then, we were just booking ourselves, like and Tommy would call up these venues, and say, hey. I know you guys got a stage. Why don't you have Moon Tax to come play your venue? And so they were very DIY at first.
Speaker 5:Go ahead, sir.
Speaker 6:The the first show that we booked up so I've got my old 02/2007, I
Speaker 5:guess, organizer here with Day planner.
Speaker 6:Yeah. Day planner. Yeah. And it I'm like, I would I would book I would book the shows and, like, I would always have so much anxiety that I accidentally double booked us somewhere. And I never did, but I'd always think, like, are we supposed to be in Louisville or, like, did you know, or was that you know?
Speaker 6:And I'd have
Speaker 4:it all written down, but,
Speaker 6:like, did I accidentally and I'd check my emails, like, just to make sure. And it only happened, you know, a few times where I'd freak out a lot about it. But the first show that we booked was in out of town was in Auburn, Alabama. And I remember
Speaker 5:that Tell me. Was that
Speaker 6:a It'd be before then. But It'd be probably 02/2006. Okay. I I think I was a senior in college.
Speaker 5:And you booked it. So, like, tell them the the business side of that. What does that mean? Do we even have a contract?
Speaker 6:Well, no. No. No. No. It was all just handshake deal.
Speaker 6:It was like and his deal was, like, $300 versus 80% of the door and two hotel rooms, and I did not know what any of that meant. And so I just wrote it down. I'm like, 2 $300 guarantee. What does that mean? And then I kinda figured it out.
Speaker 6:I was like, wait. He's gonna he's gonna just give us $300 to come down there and play? Mhmm. But the first time I booked it, I well, I called them. It's called Keotis in Auburn.
Speaker 6:It's not there anymore. And I called, and they said, we never heard of you before, so, you know, now we're not gonna book you. Like, okay. Fine. But we had a lot of friends that were at Auburn because of our Alabama connection.
Speaker 6:And so I called one of my good friends, Matt. I said, Matt, I really need you to do me a favor. He said, what's this? Go into Keotis and talk to all the bartenders about how good Moon Taxi is. And he took a bunch of buddies in there, and they all talked up Moon Taxi the whole time.
Speaker 6:And I called the next day, and, like, oh, yeah. We've heard of you. Yeah. We'll give you $300 worth of apes to the door and two hotel rooms. Like,
Speaker 4:deal. Well, that's a band band wingman.
Speaker 6:Yeah. It's pretty sweet.
Speaker 2:I mean, you're making the marketing heart sing by saying that. Like, I'm gonna build word-of-mouth myself. I'm not gonna Well, it's
Speaker 6:just I mean, it's it's it's like what I just heard this story the other day about the Red Bull, creator who he created it. He just put a bunch of Red Bull cans at some bar in Tokyo, empty ones, to make it look like people were drinking the hell out of it. Yeah. That kind of stuff blows my mind.
Speaker 5:You really have to kind of represent yourself and and and put yourself out there. And until you get to the point where you have a manager to do that and and, like, a team behind you. So we didn't have anybody, so we were just doing everything ourselves, self promotion. And back then, like, we were printing off MapQuest directions to get down to Auburn, Alabama. It was hilarious.
Speaker 5:We didn't have iPhones.
Speaker 4:Yeah. Mhmm. You're like, man, took
Speaker 2:a point. But, crap, the maps have zoomed in far enough. We don't know where that are, but we know
Speaker 5:there's a line here. We're like, who's
Speaker 2:just gonna left? Figure it out.
Speaker 6:If if you got off track with those MapQuest directions, you were in so much trouble. I mean, it was
Speaker 2:just print it and it's split between two pages and your title is horrible. Top and the bottom one? Well, it looks like
Speaker 4:a lot. Exactly. Other than, you you're pulling over to a gas station in Alabama looking at their boiled peanuts and assessing the the you know?
Speaker 2:Not to demeanour. So this this is kinda funny. So you guys had an moment, and I think, Tommy, you had mentioned, you know, when when people start singing your songs back to you. Chris, I kinda know what your I mean, we know you were born with an abacus, likely. Lord have mercy.
Speaker 2:But have you ever sat down with a client and they're, like, you know, singing a ten forty four bed? You know? How you'll say no. I had
Speaker 4:a moment. I'd it's not as, sexy and it's not as cool as theirs, but I there's been times when I we'll do a live presentation for a group a group of entrepreneurs or more mainly real estate investors. And content that we created from scratch, like, on a slide is up on the screen, and I see, like, 30 people put their phone up and just start taking pictures of the stuff we created sitting around our kitchen or, like, I think people and and it hit me because we're always part of teaching cash flow and what we're trying to do. We're trying to empower the unserved and underserved taxpayers out there, and that doesn't mean underserved, like, low income. This means people that don't understand about tax planning and strategy.
Speaker 4:And what we also are trying to get from them what they need. So we think we know what they want. And something that struck a chord with me with you guys is, like, when you wrote songs that didn't suck, I want are were there not to say a song, but were the instances where you wrote something, you're like, this is wicked. I this is gonna be great and no one liked it? Or or were there situations when you wrote something, you're like, and then people loved it?
Speaker 5:Yeah. You never know because yeah. Both. Both have happened. But, like, sometimes you get too close to something and, you know, you're precious about it.
Speaker 5:And then sometimes you'll you'll like you said, write something that you think is a throwaway song and it ends up being the the biggest song you've ever written. So it it it's really hard to tell. And we also have, like, multiple songwriters within the group. So something that I write, of course, I'm gonna think is is great. You know, so that like, that's a whole another side of working within the, you know, in the dynamics of of
Speaker 4:a band with several songwriters in there. We talk a lot on the podcast about building your own personal board of directors, and you guys spoke about building that, as, you know, having a having a a a manager, having a booking agent. What are some of the other really important relationships for for you guys out there that that you feel are your advocates? And and you kinda wake up and say,
Speaker 6:I couldn't live without this person. Those those two are definitely the most important. You know, you talk to them the most, especially a manager. And then, you know, book an agent a lot too. And and I talk to the booking agents more just because, you know, I I did a lot of that on my own to begin with.
Speaker 6:I was just flipping through this organizer back here, and I was like, wow. I booked a lot of stuff back then. You know? And, like, I kinda know, you know, and like it's good to do that because I know, like, if we have two days off, like, where are they gonna be? Like, we just did something where we're gonna end up having two days off in Charleston if we want to.
Speaker 6:You can go home if you want or you can stay in Charleston, South Carolina. So that's a good spot. It's not Starkville, Mississippi. Right? Or some lame place like that.
Speaker 6:Not to say that Starkville is that lame. I actually have you know, an affinity for that that small town. But, the other people, I guess, would be, you know
Speaker 5:I would say your publisher, music publishers. Is Publishers important. Yeah. Huge hugely important. You know, but for us, like, we're more on, like, the live performance side of it.
Speaker 5:There are, you know, innumerable songwriters in Nashville where that is their main thing. They go in nine to five, write songs all day long. They're not Yeah. Talking to a booking agent. They're talking to maybe a manager and their publisher because they're trying to get their music, you know, pitched for other artists to to cut or they're trying to get their music placed in television or film.
Speaker 5:And that's that's another thing that we we do, and we've had, we've had success. Like, we've had our song in a McDonald's commercial. We've had our song in BMW, you know, like, some really awesome ads have have used Moon Taxi's music. But, you know, that's that's another side of the, of of our musical realm that that we need you know, that that's essential. So I'd say, you know, manager, booking agent, publisher.
Speaker 5:Business manager and your lawyer. Business manager too, which is what what ultimately, I think we're gonna fall you know, and this conversation's gonna go that way because our business manager is is the one that that does our taxes.
Speaker 6:Mhmm. Yep. That's that's important. Obviously, important. According to sales out, files new companies for you for whatever you need.
Speaker 6:Like, you know, we have we have four or five different companies that we have now, I think. And, some of those are just they're they're just ways to to receive revenue streams from different records depending on who it's with. It's just a way to organize everything.
Speaker 5:Right. So in that in that era that we were talking about, the 02/2007, that's when we created our first record label, which was all for all intents and purposes, it was just like a bank account that we could all see where the money is. That $300 guarantee that we got from Auburn, Alabama, that would go into this pot. Right?
Speaker 6:This LLC. Yeah. That's a Twelve South Records LLC, which is still it's actually on the triple HR right now, which is great. And and I learned all of this stuff kind of on the fly. It's like, okay.
Speaker 6:You file for an LLC at the Snodgrass Building. Okay. Now what? You know? Well, the first I looked at this right here.
Speaker 6:These are the visitor logs, right, or when we started it. Me and Spencer went down there. And I saw that there's wins there's Tuesday the sixth. So it looks like I went down there no. I'm sorry.
Speaker 6:Wednesday the seventh and Thursday the eighth. So Spencer and I went down there Wednesday the seventh, figured out how
Speaker 5:to do it. Spencer's another band member. Yeah. By the way. And then and
Speaker 6:then I I must have gone back on the eighth and just gave gave it to him with $300 cash or something.
Speaker 5:Okay. So but you gotta give him a little context. So this is in in that era. Right? 02/2006, '2 thousand '7.
Speaker 5:'7. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And the the Snodgrass Building, do you guys know where that is?
Speaker 5:Where what that is?
Speaker 6:In Tennessee. Yeah. Downtown Nashville. Yeah. It's a it's a Tennessee State Building.
Speaker 2:Mhmm. Yeah. It's not like
Speaker 4:it's what trick or something. I I it's where you form your LLCs and, file your art
Speaker 6:as an organization. Yeah. Yeah. And that's what we did and filed all that and then brought it back into them. And then But
Speaker 5:we didn't know what we were doing. I mean, we were 23 years old, and we just thought Yeah. You had to make it official somehow. So we're like, okay. We'll just start our own LLC.
Speaker 6:Yeah. I did I did write a business plan, which our manager calls a manifesto. But, I mean and it so it's some it it's, you know, it's been a living document to some degree, but we we checked off pretty much all the goals on there, which is great. This really gives us a lot
Speaker 4:of more credence to why we created teaching tax flow because head we have our most popular podcast, I'm sure it's gonna be this one, but up until this one has been our one on single on LLC formations.
Speaker 2:And Mhmm.
Speaker 4:Why what what are some of the basic reasons why you would do that? And, again, when you first just start your business, you don't have the resources either maybe the financial resources or the personal relationship resources to build that board of directors out, and you're navigating through that. And I think that a lot of the listeners that are just getting started here will actually find, a lot of inspiration behind your story because when we we think about where the band is now compared to where you were when you began, the journey, a lot of people for don't realize the journey. And so I'm making
Speaker 2:right. Now now looking back, you probably have that time when you well, Chris loves it when I say this or and other people, but you really identify what your highest and best use of your time is. Right? Mhmm. You start to bring in those individuals as as we mentioned, the board of directors or your personal board of directors, and you really look at and say, wow.
Speaker 2:I have a little bit of free time. Even though I might have liked doing this over here a little bit, it consumed way too much time or I didn't like doing this at all, and this person does it way better. And that's you know, like, you don't you don't want me filing your taxes. I never had to really I don't stop because I've known this guy for two and a half decades. So I'm I'm skewed in that direction.
Speaker 2:So We we started off having to wear
Speaker 6:all the hats. Right? And then one by one, you start handing the hats to other people. And then, you know, and then you start to get more free time like you're saying. That's very true.
Speaker 5:Well, yeah, then we just started focusing on writing better songs because then Yeah. You know, in essence, that's what our job should have been from the get go. It's just write good songs.
Speaker 4:Well, that's I mean, I feel, like, with with teaching tax on what we're doing is creating the content, Create trying to take what's in our twenty plus years of experience on tax planning and strategy and give it out to more people that don't have don't have access to that. What other things like, do you have any other entrepreneurial ventures? No. No. Some of these specific or non related things that you like doing.
Speaker 4:I mean, you know, the other businesses that interest you? Do you,
Speaker 6:for me, there's a there's a nonprofit called Notes for Notes that I've been really close to. The guy that started that. They build out music studios in boys and girls clubs across the country. And so I've been trying to figure out a way that I can use any kind of influence that I have to help, my friend, Phil, who does that, to get more of them. Because I think that I mean, that that's just such a good philanthropy, and he's a genuine person, and I just really believe in it.
Speaker 6:But it's cool.
Speaker 2:Well, we'll definitely put that in
Speaker 4:the show notes, no pun intended, on that one. What kind of advice would you give? Because we do get a we get a lot of people. We talk a lot about Uber drivers on this podcast just because that's your prototypical gig economist. But what advice would you give an aspiring, not just musician, but someone that a gig economist, someone that's starting moving into something that they kinda have a passion for?
Speaker 2:Because you I mean, we always hear that term, right, starving artists. But, yeah, there's a lot of people that wanna be artists, so they know what they're getting into, some of them. So, yeah, kinda, Chris, if if you're asking it right, it's like, what what little push or sense of reality may you be
Speaker 6:able to get? I'd I'd say, first of all, you gotta take the dive. Right? Mhmm. That that's the biggest part is that, you know, I I run into a lot of people, who are just a little scared to take the dive.
Speaker 6:They're like, there's other people in this space, you know, that I'm trying to work in, and they're kinda fearful of that. And it's like but once you just dive off into the sea, like, it could really work. You know? You can swim. And then, you know,
Speaker 5:Maybe go there.
Speaker 6:Sorry. I got distracted.
Speaker 5:Yeah. Sorry. I this is this is hold on. Hold on. Hey.
Speaker 4:Don't worry about that. Yeah. Very good friendly here.
Speaker 2:Joe, I know how it is. I have a two year old daughter who's Oh, yeah. And then
Speaker 5:That's how old she is. Is.
Speaker 6:With a lot of things, like, you know, you might have to fake it till you make it. Like like, that's kinda what we did with that first Auburn show is that, like, we knew that we'd have friends show up, but they didn't believe us. So, you know, what's you know, we kinda had to kinda had to BS them a little bit Mhmm. To to get her to let us take that dive, and then we showed up, and there's, like, 75 people there. You know, our friends told all their friends, and then, like, oh, wow.
Speaker 6:This is worth it. And then they we came back, and there's, like, a 20 people there. Just that sort of thing. And it goes far from that. Like like, we noticed that we were starting to sell more tickets outside of Nashville than we were inside Nashville.
Speaker 6:And I guess your only, yeah, conduit for, you know, getting to your fans is was, Myspace at the time. So what we started doing was taking a lot of pictures of our crowds outside of Nashville and posting them. And then people in Nashville were kinda like, oh, wait a minute. This this band's touring a little bit. And then our shows in Nashville started getting bigger.
Speaker 2:And tell me, it's funny you mentioned that. So I I you did mention Columbia, South Carolina. So I lived there for about a year and a half before I moved to Charleston for about ten years, and there was I don't know if you guys ever knew of it or played at Headliners that was in Columbia. I used to it was the greatest little spot that I went there, and I'd meet a lot of these bands that would be coming through. And, obviously, coming from the Detroit area, we're we're spoiled.
Speaker 2:Everybody, you know, seemed to always come through here. And it a lot of people stopped at Headliners, and they're it would almost be like they got one track on Sirius or XM at the time, and they went on tour, and they would stop there, right, between, like, Charlotte and Atlanta. And some guys had, like, a really sour taste in their mouth about, like, actually having to tour and stop, but then other ones would say the
Speaker 5:same thing. They're like, you know, we go and, you know, we play in Charlotte, and then we stop in Columbia. We got a night off, and there's 20 people. Mhmm. I mean, I'm sure That's just part of it, though.
Speaker 5:That's just part of the you know, it's not always gonna be great shows. But, back to the the the kind of advice thing, I I would just recommend, if you're starting a business, surround yourself with people that you trust because we're just so lucky. And and, like but Tommy and I, we're we're brothers at this point. You know? It was like Yeah.
Speaker 5:It's just the business part is is just a bonus. You know? Like, I just wanna be around this guy and and and play music with him. But, I I I feel that way about about the guys in the band and about the the network of management and booking agents too. It's just we we trust each other.
Speaker 5:And I think that's that's hugely important because it it is an endeavor that can, you know, it can sail or it can fail. And, you you know, fortunately, we've we've been very, very lucky because we've seen other bands that are way better than us just ascend, ascend, and then just something happens and then they don't they don't stay together. So it's, staying together is hugely important.
Speaker 4:Teamwork. Teamwork's important and and that and these are a lot of nuggets for, for our listeners in any wherever they're at in their journey. Well, we have one final segment. It's called the rapid fire, and they are off the wall questions that we've come up with. So I I've got three of them.
Speaker 4:So each of you would love to have your answer. And, are you ready? Yeah.
Speaker 5:Tommy, you go first. I think my headphones might be dying. So,
Speaker 4:Alright. Alright. We'll we'll wrap we'll go real rapid.
Speaker 6:We'll go first. Favorite cereal? Fruity Pebbles.
Speaker 4:Cinnamon Toast Crunch. Oh, another Cinnamon Toast Crunch. Okay. Favorite sports team?
Speaker 6:Oh, man. You're gonna make me choose, Atlanta Braves.
Speaker 5:Okay. Titans. Titans. I know, maybe
Speaker 6:Her bucko.
Speaker 4:That's one of my three. I can't pick, but, anyway, this isn't about my last one, Ideal weekend.
Speaker 6:Fourth of July on a Monday.
Speaker 5:Oh, nice. That's deep. That's deep. That's deep. Really?
Speaker 5:That's it. Mine's with with my family, spending time with my family and playing a little pickleball and winning.
Speaker 4:Well, Trevor, we know you win and we'll sell the pickleball matches.
Speaker 5:No. That's not true.
Speaker 4:Especially if you have a bald partner.
Speaker 5:No. That well, that is true.
Speaker 2:Chris is more aerodynamic. That's that's what we're gonna call him. So
Speaker 5:This is awesome, guys. Thank you.
Speaker 2:Thank well, thank you guys for joining us. Again, if if you're one of the only people on the planet that haven't heard of Moon Taxi, get on and get on and check them out. Thank you guys honestly for hopping on this. As you mentioned too, Trevor, I think you did at the beginning. It's a topic that you guys haven't talked about a whole lot, even just related to tax and business side.
Speaker 2:And, I mean, I know we can go deeper into that that avenue too. So, you know, we look forward to future conversations with you guys. Chris, anything else you wanna add?
Speaker 4:No. Again, heartfelt, thank you. I know our listeners are gonna really enjoy this, and we will see you in the defeating taxes private Facebook group, defeatingtaxes.com, and in the teaching tax flow community. Excellent. Excellent.
Speaker 2:Well, thank you, Chris, as always. Thank you, gentlemen, for joining us, and we will see everybody next week. Hey, everyone. John here again from the Teaching Tax Flow team. Thank you for hanging out with us on this podcast.
Speaker 2:As mentioned earlier on, we like doing these, kinda getting some interesting guests on, great stories on how they got started. Couldn't think of better guests such as Trevor and Tommy from Moon Taxi to walk us through kind of their early stage process and really how they got to where they are now. Again, that number on Spotify of downloads on one song over a 55,000,000 times. It's no small feat. So congratulations to you guys on the continued success.
Speaker 2:We look forward to the new album you had mentioned there. Thank you so much for taking the time out of y'all schedule to walk us through all the stuff that you guys have been through. For all of our listeners, if you have any questions for these guys, any questions for the teaching tax flow team, as always, the defeating taxes private Facebook group is the best place to do that. If you're not on Facebook or you just want to shoot us an email, helloteachingtaxflow dot com is the best place for that. If you have any guest ideas, topic ideas you love to hear us discuss on this show, sure send them on over.
Speaker 2:But until then, we shall see everybody soon.
